MKE on MKE

MKE on MKE is our recurrent oral history series where we ask those in Milwaukee to share their insights on what makes our city special.

Bobby Tanzilo

Senior Writer/Editor Onmilwaukee

For those unfamiliar with you and your work, can you explain a little about your background?

I am senior editor/writer at OnMilwaukee, a daily online city magazine, where I write about history, architecture, beer, whiskey, travel and other stuff. I have an ongoing series called Urban Spelunking which uses buildings as an excuse to talk about people and places and history in Milwaukee. For a number of years it was also the most popular podcast on 88Nine Radio Milwaukee.

Your bio states, “Brooklyn kid, Milwaukee adult”. Were you born outside of Milwaukee? If so, how did you find yourself here?

I was born in Brooklyn and moved to Milwaukee, somewhat against my will / definitely against my wishes at the time, the day after my high school graduation. My mom is from Milwaukee and my dad is from New York. They met downtown when my day was in the Marines and came to town to do a mock beach landing on an LST as part of Operation Inland Seas.

How did you get into writing about the history of Milwaukee?

I’ve always been interested in history. I can remember as a kid having books about Brooklyn history and reading The Great Bridge in high school. Even in my earliest days here I visited MCHS, Streets of Old Milwaukee and had books about Milwaukee history. It’s just something that’s always been there.

Can you explain how Urban Spelunking got started?

It really started somewhat casually when I was invited to do stories on a few things around the same time at some landmarks like climbing the tower at City Hall and taking what I can only describe as an expedition to the lantern atop the St. Josaphat dome. Initially it seemed more like it would be about behind the scenes stuff like that at landmarks, but over time it morphed organically into being whatever I felt like it being. It really just followed my curiosity and hundreds of stories and more than a decade into it I’ve never ever found a building or place that didn’t have a story to tell. I think people tend to like it because of that curiosity; a lot of us are interested in and curious about the same stuff.

You are very proud of your Italian heritage, is the Milwaukee Italian community a strong one?

I think the community faces the same issue as ethnic communities of all kinds everywhere. As we get further and further away from the immigrant generation it gets more and more difficult to hold on to what’s special and unique and interesting, but I think Milwaukee makes a good effort at trying. I do like, too, that there are still a few remnants of the enclaves, like the Piemontese/ Marchegiano/Toscano community in Bay View and the Sicilian community up near Brady Street. I will forever be saddened by the fact that the Third Ward community was destroyed by that urban renewal I mentioned earlier.

Favorite Italian restaurant in the city?

Oh, that’s easy. Ristorante Bartolotta.

Is there one place that you explored for Urban Spelunking that stands out to you, or was your favorite?

There have been so many but one I always come back to is what the Bradley Center people used to call the North North Building, because it was north of the North Building, which had the ammonia system for making ice for hockey and ice shows.

It was a plain, square brick building at the intersection of two alleys, but something about it always seemed interesting to me, though I can’t say exactly why. It just had a vibe. I finally got them to let me inside (they had been leery because it was used for storage and didn’t want it get broken into) and I found a Usinger’s elf sticker on a door, so I contacted Fritz Usinger who told me it was built as a stables and garage for Usinger’s delivery wagons and later trucks and they called it “Art’s Garage” because one of their salespeople, Art Schoen, lived upstairs in an apartment with his family. Fritz connected me to Art’s son Lloyd who had an amazing story to tell of growing up in the building and about how the neighborhood used to be and how it had changed over the years. I went to Lloyd’s house to pick up the photos that are in the story and he had bags of candy for my kids and was just the nicest guy.

Later, after it was torn down for the Fiserv, I got an email with a photo of the door that has the elf sticker on it. A woman bought it at a salvage business and installed it in her house.

Lloyd’s story, the way the story kind of unfolded, the tale of a changed neighborhood, the fact that it was being torn down not long after for the new arena, and just the fact that my hunch turned out to be right makes it one of my favorites. Along with meeting Lloyd, who was awesome. It’s also a good reminder that every building has a story to tell.

https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/spelunkingbcnorthnorth

Is architectural preservation something that Milwaukeeans should take more seriously?

I think we take it pretty seriously, at least some of us do, but there could always be more of us. I don’t think we need to save every single thing that is X years old, but it’s important that we save landmark historic sites, buildings of importance by important architects, examples of the richness of our architectural history, neighborhoods that have a uniqueness. I love contemporary architecture, too, so I’m not biased against the new, but like Jane Jacobs, I think that our landscape is best when it’s a mix of old and, tall and low and medium. I definitely think movements like urban renewal of the 1950s and ‘60s that just bulldozed entire blocks and areas wholesale were a terrible mistake and one I hope we’ll never make again.

You recently played drums at Summerfest as part of Milwaukee Remembers, can you explain how you got involved with this?

I started playing music at about age 9 or 10 and was in bands in high school. When I moved here, my first friendships were through music (https://onmilwaukee.com/articles/bernboys) and I played in bands pretty much nonstop until I had kids. The last one I was in, The Yell Leaders, were named VH1’s best unsigned band in the Midwest and we traveled a fair bit. I loved it. One of our former members passed away after a long battle with cancer earlier this year and her husband, another former member, organized this show.

milwaukee…In passing:

Favorite fish fry in Milwaukee?

Kegel’s Inn. My motto: without potato pancakes, it’s not a fish fry, it’s just fried fish.

Whiskey or brandy old fashioned

I like both, but I tend toward brandy because I like good whiskey and if you have good whiskey, why mix it into anything?

Best place for hot ham and rolls?

I’m not a big ham and rolls guy, but I’d go Sciortino’s. Or, if it’s a day other than Sunday (when they’re closed), National Bakery, where I’ll also get some pecan fingers.

Best cheese curds in Milwaukee?

Hmm, not sure if I’m going Lakefront of Buckatabon. Maybe I should just go eat both.

Mets or Brewers?

On a good day, they both win. If they’re playing each other, Mets.